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Tattooing, at that time [the 80’s] in the United States, was huge. People were starting to develop black and grey styles, and they were starting to develop detailed color – nobody was doing detailed colors, so those were the years when those things started popping out. I started from black and grey, when other artists started developing that kind of street style into a refined art. From that, artists like myself and other artists from the area said, ‘Why can’t they be done with color?’ So we started doing detailed color and changing what had been done into what would be, hoping to always have that growth in a better direction which it did start to do.